What Do You Think of Macrobiotics [الأرشيف]

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iffat

28-01-06, 02:29 AM

Salam All

Macrobiotics

Have you seen Mariam noor or heard her shows?or anyother person talking about Macrobiotics?

It is a new trend of diet that have views on eating meat and milk products and different other things?

How does it sound to you?

Do you believe in it

Do you follow it?

Do you know anyone who follows it

what do you think about it and what are your views? 

please if you don't know about it do some search and read about it and then please give me your views

I will put my views later but very important that most of you participate in this discussion as it is becoming part of many people's daily life, many people are becoming obsessed with this nutritional program,

so let's put it under the microscope!!!!!!

Iffat

venus

28-01-06, 03:01 AM

Salam Aleikom Iffat,

You really encouraged me, if I didn't have to go now I would have done some research about ithttp://www.hadeer.com/asp/projects/smileys/smiley1.gif

inshALLAH when I'm back...

Salam,
Menna

shorouk.h

28-01-06, 08:23 PM

Macrobiotics

of, relating to, or being a diet based on the Chinese cosmological principles of yin and yang that in its most rigorous forms consists primarily of whole grains and requires caution to avoid malnutrition, scurvy, or anemia
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i dont think much ppl follow it ..

Rania

29-01-06, 10:52 AM

Assalam Alykom w Rahmat ALLAH w Barakatoh

thank you Iffat for this interesting topic

One definition of microbiotics states the following:

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I agree with this because I believe in a balanced diet that includes all kinds of foods including proteins.

As for Mariam Noor, I am sorry to say this but I do not beleive a single word from what she said.

Salam

R.

A-man

29-01-06, 11:08 AM

i urge no one to hear mariam nour...in diet regimes okay but in other fields i say she is not in the class to talk about other fields...:smiley2:

iffat

29-01-06, 11:38 PM

Thank you,

Menna,shorouk,Rania and Ayman for your replies, but I still would like to know others opinions, so come one guys particpate with us and let\s learn more about it

By the way, What encouraged me to open the subject is a very good talk for Dr Jameel ALQudsi on Iqra last Friday night, anyone watched it?

AYMAN why do you think that we should not listen to Mariam noor can you elaborate

waiting for more opinions anyone pro ----macrobiotics???

Iffat

RosaBlue

30-01-06, 02:30 AM

Salam 3lekom

i have made some research about the advantages & disadvantages of Macrobiotic .:smiley1:hope u find it useful like i did.
Advantages of the standard macrobiotic diet

The standard macrobiotic diet is well known to most people by now. It is mainly composed of whole grains, vegetables and small amounts of fish, legumes, soups and pickles. Keep in mind this is the macrobiotic diet. Meaning, the application of the macrobiotic philosophy to food and nutrition only. The macrobiotic philosophy is universal and applies to everything in nature and the macrobiotic diet is only the nutritional aspect of this philosophy. The main advantages of the macrobiotic diet are the following:

1. Macrobiotic foods are rich in micronutrients (vitamins and minerals) and fiber. These elements facilitate the elimination of toxins from the body. Yang foods like grains speed up the elimination process through the bowels and yin foods like leafy greens speed up the elimination process through the kidneys.
2. Rather than generating toxins in the body during metabolism, Macrobiotic foods help carry toxins out of the body. Remember how whole grains are considered in a macrobiotics a source of clean burning fuel for the body (http://www.tolaymat.com/Skeptics-E.htm). This is opposed to animal products which leave behind much sulfuric and phosphoric acids and waste products that have to be eliminated later from the body.
This has a main advantage when we remember that in macrobiotics, disease is considered really nothing but the long term accumulation of toxins in the body. Therefore, foods that help reduce the amounts of toxins in the body help naturally and gradually cure all acquired diseases.


Disadvantages of the standard macrobiotic diet

But applying the standard macrobiotic diet arbitrarily can be dangerous in some cases! Why? Because a persons current state of health might mean that some of the macrobiotic foods are harmful to him.

Example: someone with a salmonella poisoning, a food allergy or advanced ulcerative colitis will not tolerate lettuce or even brown rice and will have to rely on a different grain rather than brown rice or whole wheat until he improves. This person will have to follow a modified diet that suits his current state of health until he recovers, only then he can move to the standard macrobiotic diet. The same logic applies to all diseases and all patients. Every person will benefit from staying away from certain foods and eating a little more of certain macrobiotic foods.

There really is a danger in advising everyone regardless of their state of health to follow the standard macrobiotic diet.

Do you know what foods you should start with based on your current state of health?
Do you know how these vegetables and other foods will affect your body?
Do you know when to eat and when to avoid each one of them?
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If you do, then you are your own doctor!
You are a free person.
You know what it means to be free from the need for a doctor or a medicine
Your heart does not know fear. Fear of illness.
You know that your food is your best medicine
You know what to eat and you use food instead of medicine

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venus

30-01-06, 05:06 AM

Salam Aleikom,

From what i read about macrobiotics I realised that it is close to our Prophet's way of eating, is that true Iffat?

As far as I know, Sayedna Mohammed used to concentrate his meal on whole grain food. My neighbour's mum used to suffer from high blood pressure, high colestrol, and diabetes and when she started following our Prophet's diet it worked with her better than medicine.

I don't believe that we should follow macrobiotics strictly, but I think that we should try to substitute (as much as possible) our daily consumption of carbohydrates with whole grain food because it is muuuuuuch more healthy and lower in calories.

Is anything of what I said is true Iffat?:smiley1::smiley9:

Salam,
Menna

iffat

05-02-06, 05:51 AM

Assalamu Alasikum

Dear Menna, Farah

Thank you for your replies and thank you for your interest in reading about it, It is true that what you said Mennathat our prophet peace be upon him ate less meat and more wholegrain but he never prohibited meat and dairy product, he never advised us to be vegetarians only It is true also what you said we should try to substitute what we consume daily with more healthy7 choices such as whole grains and les red meat and increase vegetable intake 

Howver, I believe macrobiotics was propagated in our world by certain people who introduced not only dietary guidelines but also so many lifestyle concepts that are strange from our beliefs and deen especially that if we read about macrobiotics we find it is not only a dietary regimen but a lifestyle.....imported from idol and animalworshippers cultures and .....!!!

I know people believe they follow macrobiotcs so they do not eat meat at all, except fish in rare conditions, they do not consume milk or any dairy products, eat only wholegrain and do not eat some kind of vegetables for example eggplant, tomatoes and potatoes because they say it is yen or whatever (male and femla, hot and cold ) types of food that might harm the body and cause cancer particularly

...........Also these people consume seaweeds, sushi and many strange kinds of japanese food that are new to our culture..... 

...............Also those people drink soya milk which either they get from the market or they make their own soymilk from soybeans

.............All ofthese pratcises are either sold in books fo the use of normal lay people by people claim to be Drs and experts, or these practises are advised by neighbours and by someone heard on the Tv such advice and took part of the sentence and started spreading it to neighbours and friends

Where is the truth in all of this??How does it affect our health?

What about us Muslims when Milk and yogurt are mentioned i the Quran and I prohibit them on myself because I believe it is harmful!!!!!

what about honey alsomentioned by Quran and sunnah and I found people do not use it in the name of macrobiotics

what about meat and meat products......etc

What do you think about all these points?

Lets learn more about it and let us think more about what Tv is selling us in regards of diet and disease treatment should we believe in everything said on Tv.....??

I can pose so many questions on you but let us stick now to this kind of diet and let us answer some of the questions...........

I hope I will have more participation from the group. it is a really an important topic that we should investigate togetherso we can be careful in our choices!!



Iffat

Tabboosh

06-02-06, 01:31 AM

Salam alikom,

1st. jak Iffat 4 educating us about microbiotics, actually i don't have that much of info about microbiotics and u can say i'm ignorat in microbiotics but when i listen to Mariam Noor i feel that microbiotics makes sense in terms of nutrition habits, nutrition education, and taking care of spirit as we do 4 our bodys specially the stomach, but i fully agree with Ayman in what he has said, subhana allah as if he is sitting in my head he said i i wanted to say, it is that we have to lkisten to Mariam Noor in microbiotics only , cuz what i've noticed is that she mixes(deleberatly or not) between religions, i mean she says Islam is like Christanity(the existing one) like jewdism like bodism etc..... i understand this as floating of deep meanings of Islam as if she wants to say to all people get off ur religion and be just believers, and as Ayman has said she is not in a stand allow her to discuss such deep issues she is allowed like anybody else to ttalk in her area of specialization microbiotics i mean.

Yallah Iffat waiting 4 microbiotics eposoides fromon hadeer, and wish to concentrate on the best regiems 4 people who r going to get marry soon, i'll ask Aalia to call u soon:smiley36:.

salam

iffat

06-02-06, 05:39 AM

Thank you Manar for you reply

By the way it is called macrobiotics

An important tip for you Manar, 

I will not advise you about any diet because youshould loose weight (as it is supposed to happen because you are in love and Alia is away) 

However, if you donot loose weight dring this period your chances will become minimal in loosing weight in the future because your Alia will be excited to show you all her recipes at the begining of the marriage and she will try to reach to your heart with (samn Hamwi) and so the result will be very awful so make use of the engagement periodright now and loose weight.

My advice: 

Eat less:smiley2:

Exercise more:smiley32:

when you feel hungry think of Alia:smiley4:.................................:smi ley19:



Iffat

Rania

07-02-06, 06:29 AM

:smiley4::smiley4:

Iffat, you are so funny!!

Tabboosh

07-02-06, 08:32 PM

Rania,

salam alikom, actually Iffat knows what she is talking about she is not only kidding, but also explaining the real situation, may ALLAH SWT grant u this feelings soon(I mean getting engaged).

Iffat,

salam alikom, mashallah what is this? really u r psychological, and medical expert, mau ALLAH SWT bless u, u've described the situation as if u r living with us, .

may allah forgive u iffat u'ce reopened jro7ati:smiley19:, just kidding.

salam

iffat

11-02-06, 06:57 AM

SALAM 

Manar!! I want action not only words so try to loose weight, I will be waiting from you a report on your weight weekly what do you think???

NOW back to our main topic here what about macrobiotics????

I will give you my opinion in this regard

I don't believe in macrobiotics at all especially when it is presented by Mariam noor as I feel she is propagating more than dietary concepts

I believe i Islamic healthy lifestyle which shares some of the concepts of macrobiotics such as consuming grains, wholesome food However, I am totally against the saying that we should not drink mild and dairy products as it increases cancer because it is totally against the teachings of prophet Muhammad PBUH and the Quran that says (يخرج من بطونها لبن سائغ شرابه)This is not my words , these are the words of Dr Alqudsi that milk is purified inside the animal body before it is milked out so whatever the animal is eating milk will be coming out pure according to the verse

SO let us follow our Islamic teachings on health instead of corrupt ideas that mix between diet and religion to propagateUnislamic concepts



IslamI believe that this kind of diet mix teachings from different religions on diet

So my believe is say no Macrobiotic and eat and drink from what is pure and wholesome (طيبات ما رزقنا الله) Try to eat organic food, decrease meat intake, increase fruit and vegetable intake, use food and drink of the Quran and Sunnah( زيتزن /خضار وفاكهة ولحم طير/عنب/عسل/تمر/ماء/تين/زيتزن/زيت زيتون/خل/ رمان/ حليب/بقوليات/قثاء وبصل/يقطين/grapes/dates/honey/fig/pomegranate/onion/grains/c ucumber/pumpkin/olives and olive oil/water/milk/vinegar/fruits/vegetables

iffat

A-man

13-02-06, 06:44 AM

Ma-shaAllah Great so you studied the issue and reached results Wow great Effort and jazakum Allah khairan for your efforts in the research

Tabboosh

13-02-06, 07:30 AM

Iffat,

alam alikom, jazaki ALLAH kher sister 4 the valuable advice actually i thought the diet regiem which Mariam Nour gives is ok i mean i used to believe in what she says in terms of diet regiems, but khalas not anymore after the sincere advice from our sincere sister in Islam, may ALLAH reward u.

Actually i agree with what u've suggested and inshallah i'll report to u on weekly basis about my weight and my health generally.

jazaki ALLAH kher.

salam